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Episode 146 · 17 September 2026 · 54 min

AI Found What Nine Years of Security Research Missed with Charles Guillemet // CTO @ Ledger

Charles Guillemet · CTO, Ledger

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AI Found What Nine Years of Security Research Missed with Charles Guillemet // CTO @ Ledger

Charles Guillemet, CTO of Ledger, shares how AI found vulnerabilities his 15-person security team missed for nine years — and explains why security-by-design and key management matter more than ever.

Charles and Tobi discuss the changing economics of vulnerability discovery, why prompting AI to "find vulnerabilities" isn't a full strategy, his recommendation for restructuring engineering teams around AI-native pods and "harness engineering," and why he believes the CISO function should stay organizationally independent.

A sharp, sobering listen for any CTO thinking about AI, security, and how fast both are moving.

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